THE ORVILLE CHAPTER
If you are not using a KJV 1611 Authorized Bible then you are using a translation that uses Greek manuscripts that originated in Alexandria Egypt and used by the Roman Catholic Church, and there are no 20th century exceptions. This is fact; it is verifiable truth. Today people are so Bible ignorant they can’t see the wickedness in altering God’s Word. Even many pastors are blinded to this evil trend of removing and altering THE WORDS OF GOD
I’m going to tell you about it and present just enough information to pique your interest. I don’t want to make reading this a chore and besides there are tons of books on the subject. I, therefore, hope that you will get the books listed below and research it for yourself. Every book mentioned is written by learned men with the skill and knowledge to present these truths in detail.
I am using the Jehovah Witnesses as a springboard because what they believe about Bible translation is what every liberal and tolerant Christian College believes: THAT THE BIBLE IS AS ANY OTHER BOOK, (Judges 16:7)
This is the Orville chapter. Orville is an ex Jehovah Witness and I think of him as a seeker. Sometimes when someone learns the truth about an apostate church or cult they have trusted explicitly they leave it and become a seeker of truth. In Orville’s case he is seeking truth in the “New World Translation” (the Jehovah Witness Watch Tower Bible) and their “The Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures”. According to the forward in the Jehovah Witnesses Watch Tower Bible the translation was based upon “The widely accepted Westcott and Hort text (1881) by reason of its admitted excellence.” The New World Translation I have doesn’t have that quote. I got it off the Internet. However the Watch Tower Society has a running history of changing and removing material as it suits them. This doesn’t change anything because if you turn to the gospel of John chapter eight in the Jehovah Witness Watch Tower Bible you will find that the chapter starts with verse twelve. The first eleven verses are not even there! The Watch Tower Society can be honest because they know that their members put more faith in what they say then in anyone else. But since those eleven verses are missing from John chapter eight we know they used the Westcott and Hort text because the Westcott and Hort text doesn’t include them.
The Watch Tower Society base their Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures on Westcott and Hort’s text which uses almost exclusively two Greek manuscripts: the Siniaticus and the Vaticanus. These are the two manuscripts that all modern, up-to-date, easy to read, bibles are based upon. Get your translation out and look it up. John 8:1-11 may be there because most translators are not honest, but if you look at the foot note at the bottom of the page it will tell you that those verses are not in the “oldest and best manuscripts”. There is a lot of money in the sale of Bibles, and they know that you wouldn’t buy it if they just eliminated those eleven verses so they are being disingenuous about it.
The Greek manuscripts that Westcott and Hort used to form their own Greek text were Vaticanus (found in the Vatican library in 1481) and which today still resides in the Vatican hence its name, and the Siniaticus, which was found in St Catherine’s monastery on Mount Sinai. Tishindorf, a Greek scholar, found it in a wastepaper basket back in 1859. Both of these manuscripts are from Alexandria Egypt and they are both from the same original. These two manuscripts are the supposed “oldest and best” that all modern intelligent religious people use and the ones referred to in the footnotes of your dishonest bible.
These two manuscripts, Vaticanus and Siniaticus, are the main texts that are used in compiling all New Greek biblical texts. A list includes: Griesbach 1774 – 1775, Lachmann 1831 – 1850, Tishendorf 1841 – 1872, Tregelles 1856 – 1872, Alford 1862 – 1871, Westcott and Hort 1881 – 1903, Weymouth 1886, Weiss 1902, Nestle 1904. All modern Greek New Testament are eclectic meaning that editors choose for themselves from extant (existing) manuscripts what they think should be included in their Greek New Testaments. So, when someone tells you they are using THE Greek text to correct a bible translation, tell them there is no such thing as “THE GREEK TEXT” .
David H. Sorenson writes in Touch Not The Unclean Thing,
“More specifically, shortly after the turn of the twentieth century, the British and foreign Bible Society published a Greek text of the New Testament based upon the work of Eberhard Nestle. Nestle’s text, in turn, was based upon (1) Tishendorf’s eighth edition of 1869 – 1872, (2) Westcott and Hort’s Greek New Testament of 1881, and (3) The weiss edition of 1902. Since then, the Nestle text has undergone twenty-six revisions and is presently in its twenty-seventh edition. Later in the twentieth century, Kurt Aland became co-editor and this Greek text is now called the Nestle-Aland Text.”
So you see there is a ton of Greek manuscripts, and none of them agree with each other. So are you as positive as I am that you are putting your faith in the right one? If so and it is not the KJV, Did a man teach you that? Jesus said you will know them by their fruits and most of the fruit of the twentieth century has been rotten. If you don’t agree with that then that just shows the extent to which the rotten fruit has destroyed Christian values.
When the KJV was translated it was in a time when Christians were truly soldiers of the cross. They lived every second for Christ and gladly sacrificed all for Him. Today we even put TV before God. Money meant nothing to most of them. One of our modern sayings is, “You gotta make a buck” Read some biographies and check out Tyndale, Wesley, Whitfield et.al.
Wilbert N. Pickering writes in The Identity of the New Testament Text that, today, there are two camps one apostate, the other is Bible believers, both have opposite views on the identity of the New Testament Greek text to be used in translating the Bible.
“They tend to form two clusters, or camps, and these camps differ substantially from each other. In very broad and over-simplified terms, one camp generally follows the large majority of the Mss (between 80% and 90%) which are in essential agreement among themselves but which do not date from before the fifth century A.D. [that is text the KJVis translated from, me], while the other generally follows a small handful (often less then ten) of earlier MSS (from the third, fourth and fifth centuries) which disagree among themselves. The second camp has been in general control of the scholarly world for the last 100 years.”
The one camp [KJV] uses the Textus Receptus, also called the Received Text, or the Byzantine Text. It is the Greek text that agrees with over five thousand Greek manuscripts, other ancient text that range from just a couple verses on a scrap piece of material, to the writings of the early church fathers, [Fathers not in the sense of Roman Catholicism but, rather, leaders in the early church.], and lectionaries, which are a type of our church hymn books that have readings included. These are manuscripts from all over the world.
David Otis Fuller quotes D. L. Brake in Counterfeit or Genuine? “ there are about 5,255 extant manuscripts: 81 Papyri: 267 Majuscules [capital letters]; 2,764 Minuscules [lower case letters]; 2,143 Lexionaries. Of these manuscripts, the overwhelming majority – some ware between 80 and 90 percent – support the Traditional Text.” Which is the main Greek manuscript the KJV is translated from
We read about the Greek manuscript that the KJV was translated from in Which Bible? by Fuller where he quotes Benjamin G. Wilkinson on the Textus Receptus, “The first stream which carried the Received Text in Hebrew and Greek, began with the apostolic churches…precious manuscripts were preserved by such as the church at Pella in Palestine where Christians fled, when in 70A.D. the Romans destroyed Jerusalem; by the Syrian Church of Antioch … by the Italic Church in northern Italy; and also at the same time by the Gallic Church in southern France and by the Celtic Church in Great Britian; by the pre-Waldensian, the Waldensian, and the churches of the Reformation.”
The apostate camp uses only ten percent of the extant manuscripts with the Siniaticus, and the Vaticanus Greek manuscripts having superiority. Yes, those two texts displace all others, but why? In the book Which Bible edited by David Otis Fuller, Dean Burgon [1813 – 1888] is quoted, “I am utterly disinclined to believe, so grossly improbable does it seem – that at the end of 1800 years 995 copies out of every thousand, suppose, will prove untrustworthy; and that the one, two, three, four or five which remain, whose contents were till yesterday as good as unknown, will be found to have what the Holy Spirit originally inspired…. I am utterly unable to believe, in short, that God’s promise has so utterly failed, that at the end of 1800 years, much of the text … [was] picked by a German critic out of a wastepaper basket in the convent of St. Catherine.” These manuscripts come from a line that runs back to Alexandria Egypt via the Roman Catholic Church.
The King James Bible is the ONLY Bible in use today that relies on the Textus Receptus! The only one. No one has updated that Bible into modern language. There is the New King James and a few others that claim they do, but that is a deception because they use an Alexandrian text in the footnotes and subtly in the text itself. It appears to me that God has forbidden anyone from messing with His Book, the KJV. That Bible alone stands essentially as translated. Some will disagree but check out the actual changes and you will see that they are minor, such as spelling.
If you continue studying Biblical history you will come to the conclusion that those who believe in evolution and those who believe the Westcott and Hort theory have much in common. First, in order for an educated man to believe in evolution he must be an agnostic or an atheist, for if there is no God then evolution must be true by default. I’m not saying that is true for everyone, just those like Carl Sagon and Isaac Asimov who are educated and have earned letters to stick behind their names, letters like Dr. or Ph.D. They know evolution defies all logic but they persuade the masses into thinking that evolution is fact and not fantasy. The same is true about the Westcott and Hort text and theory. Those who believe it must first reject the direct hand of God in preserving an inerrant Bible. Westcott and Hort both believed Darwin’s theory of evolution, and both have a form of godliness but deny the power thereof (1 Timothy 3:5).
PREACH THE WORD
II TIMOTHY 3:15-17
And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
II TIMOTHY 4:1-4
I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
Mat 10:27 What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops.
Mat 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
preach ye upon the housetops – Have you ever had a conversation standing on a roof with someone on the ground?
PREACHING IS A ONE SIDED CONVERSATION
THE INSTRUCTION – THE COMMAND IS TO PREACH
- PREACHING IS FOR EVERYONE
IT’SNOT JUST FOR PASTORS
IT’S NOT JUST FOR EVANGELISTS
WHEN YOU TELL SOMEONE ABOUT JESUS YOU ARE PREACHING TO THEM
THE UNSAVED WILL TELL YOU THAT
- That is not to say we shouldn’t teach
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
GOOD PREACHING TEACHES AND GOOD TEACHING PREACHES
PREACH THE WORD
DON’T PREACH COME TO CHURCH
DON’T PREACH YOUR HOBBY
DON’T PREACH YOUR SPORT
DON’T PREACH POLITICS
PREACH THE WORD
THAT SHOULD BE YOUR OBJECTIVE
WHEN YOU DO THAT – ALL THE ABOVE “don’t preach” IS OKAY
BUT ALWAYS MAKE A BEE LINE TO THE CROSS
- THE COMMAND IS TO PREACH IN SEASON
OUT OF SEASON
1] PREACH ALL THE TIME
A] PREACH WHEN YOU FEEL LIKE IT
B] PREACH WHEN YOU KNOW THE HOLY GHOST IS WITH YOU
C] PREACH WHEN THE GREEN LIGHT IS ON: IT’S FUN
a) the Bible verses are there
b) you have confidence
SOMETIME WHEN ALL THAT HAPPENS YOU CAN’T HELP BUT PREACH
1st Corinthians 9:16
For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!
THE GREATEST JOY IS PREACHING WITH THE POWER OF GOD
- THE WORST IS PREACHING OUT OF SEASON
1] FEELING ALONE
2] NOT BEING ABLE TO QUOTE THE RIGHT BIBLE VERSES
3] NOT BEING ABLE TO STAY ON TRACK
REMEMBER THIS VERSE
2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
THAT VERSE IS TELLING US TO PREACH THE WORD WHENEVER WE CAN
THIS BIBLE VERSE IS TELLING US TO PREACH THE WORD WHEN WE DON’T WANT TO PREACH THE WORD.
1st CORINTHIANS 2:4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
DO YOU PREACH THE WORD
DO i HEAR SOMEONE SAY “I’M A LADY I DON’T PREACH”
THIS ISN’T GENDER ORIENTATED
- WOMEN SHOULDN’T PREACH LIKE A MAN
BUT YOU CAN TELL FOLKS THEY WILL GO TO HELL AND BURN IF THEY DON’T GET SAVED
LADY LIKE, and hand them a tract
SWEETLY WITH SUGAR AND CREAM
HOW SHOULD MEN PREACH THE WORD?
reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine
2 TIMOTHY 4:2
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
TELL THEM WHAT IS WRONG
USE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS
TELL THEM ABOUT THE HOLINESS OF GOD
MAKE SURE YOU DRIVE IT HOME
TELL THEM THEY ARE WRONG
I’M SAVED YOU ARE LOST
I’M NOT YOU YOU ARE NOT ME
YOU ARE GUILTY
YOU ARE UNDER GOD’S WRATH
YOU ARE IN TROUBLE
THIS IS HOW YOU GET RIGHT
TAKE THEM TO CALVARY
TAKE THEM TO ROMANS 10:9-10
GET THEM SAVED
GET THEM BAPTIZED
GET THEM IN CHURCH
SHOW THEM HOW TO STAY RIGHT
SHOW THEM WHAT TO DO IF THEY FALL
WE HAVE A COMMAND TO PREACH WHAT WE CAN HOLD IN OUR HAND
2 TIM 4:3 TELLS US WHY IT IS SO IMPORTANT THAT WE SHOULD PREACH
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
LOOK AROUND YOU
THERE ARE ABOUT 35,000 PEOPLE IN OUR AREA
AND WE HAVE ? HOW MANY ATTENDING CHURCH
WHY NOT MORE?
MANY ARE NOT IN CHURCH BECAUSE
they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
MANY OF OUR LOCAL CHURCHES ARE SOCIAL CLUBS
ISLAM is growing
MORMONISM is growing
The OCCULT is growing
ATHEISM is growing
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
BECAUSE A LONG TIME AGO
PREACHERS STOPPED PREACHING THE WORD OF GOD
IN JOHANNESBURG AFRICA
ANGLICAN OR EPISCOPAL CHURCH
PREACHED THAT AIDS WAS A JUDGMENT OF GOD AGAINST SODOMITES
TODAY THAT CHURCH IS TEACHING SAFE SEX
TODAY’S ORTHODOXY IS
Divorce is growing
Churches are preaching God’s love at the expense of His wrath
Hell is a fable
Sin is only a mirage
SIN IS IN THE EYE OF THE SINNER
IT’S ALL RELATIVE
1st TIMOTHY 4:-21
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
THE CHURCH IS
THE CONSCIENCE OF A NATION
WHEN IT STOPS PREACHING THE WORD
THEN THAT COUNTRY’S CONSCIENCE GETS SEARED
You who have been saved for about 30 years
Did you ever believe it would be this bad and
IT IS BAD AND WAXING worse
I remember thinking “How will the apostasy happen?
Increased fornication in fundamental churches
NOW go tell someone about the LORD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST
This goes on for a while so I broke it down into two parts
In part two I examine why America has gotten so ungodly
Brother Mark Davis has posted my testimony on his BLOG, Christians are us you can access it by clicking here. He has an excellent Blog and I hope you will spend some time checking it out and reading what he has posted.
A BLOG ON A BLOG
My sister Gwen somehow, inadvertently I think, got this email to me. I found it on my I phone. It’s a blog that talks about peace, and when you read it you just know how heart felt the writer is. Well, what sane person would not be for peace and love.
The blog is: It’s all about the level: http://krisparks0616.blogspot.com/2013/01/personal-peace_10.html
In the King James Bible the word peace is found 429 times in 400 verses, and the word love is found 311 times in 281 verses so it is a prime source of information unless you are not really serious about this peace thing. You know like I want peace but I want it on my terms, would that even make sense? Maybe that attitude is the very reason peace is so elusive. The Bible is rejected today by many people; perhaps you the reader will at least give God the benefit of a doubt and see for yourself what He has to say about peace and love.
I know some people use the Bible to support their sins of hate but that is a reflection on them, not the Bible, as any unbiased person would agree. The Bible states:
“Romans 3:3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?
Rom 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.”
The blog speaks of peace and love however from Genesis chapter three up to today the earth has never experienced it. Think about this, people have been around for at least five thousand years and it is now the 21st century, but world peace is still wanting and chaos along with threats of war is a daily media epithet. Perhaps it is time see what the Bible has to say about it. You know try and try again then read the instruction book.
The blog stated: “I pray for peace and every day I have been leaving a quote by some famous or infamous person on my Facebook page about what peace means and how to attain it.” I haven’t been following the blog but if you are serious about quoting famous or infamous persons then read on. I’m not in either category but there is no more famous authority then Jesus Christ the prince of peace. He came to bring peace and they murdered Him, because people, way down deep, don’t want peace on His terms they want it on their terms. That is why they crucified Him.
Luke 19:14 But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us.
Do you think that people are still saying that today about the real BIBLICAL Jesus? Don’t be to quick to answer because it is hypocritical to take a few Bible passages and ignore the rest as so many do. If you say, “I will have this man reign over me,” then you must believe it all.
The most famous, wise and honest man who has ever lived, Jesus Christ the God-man said:
John 14:27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
People have been praying for peace ever since Jesus walked in Israel and that is a long time: at least two thousand years have past and yet there is no peace. Here is a thought; perhaps there is no peace because we are hard wired to be violent, arrogant, selfish et al. The Bible calls it sin. Sin is evident but few want to admit that they are a sinner; instead they just wish more people could be like them, and then all would be fine.
- THE FOLLOWING IS WHAT GOD SAYS ABOUT SIN
Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
Rom 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Rom 3:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
Rom 3:12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
Rom 3:13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:
Rom 3:14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:
Rom 3:15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:
Rom 3:16 Destruction and misery are in their ways:
Rom 3:17 And the way of peace have they not known:
Rom 3:18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Why don’t we teach “the wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ” to our children, because we don’t believe it, that’s why. How is that working out for us, the blog tells us it isn’t. For decades we have been teaching our children evolution: that we are made in the image of an animal and not in the image of God and then we wonder why there is no peace.
Our children grow up ignoring their conscience until it is as numb as a Novocain tooth and that happens because they embrace situation ethics where nothing is right or wrong. Then because God has hard wired us to be God conscious they make up their own god idol in their head. They grow up seeking pleasure with drugs, sex and toys, and when it turns bad they do what godless people do: they turn to violence.
Talk about violence, there have been 55 million 874 hundred thousand seven hundred and fifty seven abortions since Roe verses Wade and as I am typing this the number increases, and we wonder why there is no peace. The number of abortions 55,874,570 is indicative of America’s selfish, ugly, violent society. Our answer to abortion is to teach our children how not to get pregnant. What worked in the past was a wedding ring but because we have moved from Leave it to Beaver to Modern Family and from Doris Day to Britney Spears, we have taught our children that they are missing out on the fun, hey kids there is no God so get it now, and if things don’t work out, well the grave ends it all. That is what we are subliminally teaching them, come on you know kids can read the small print.
Here is some statistics from “The American Foundation for Suicide Prevention”
- Over 38,000 people in the United States die by suicide every year.
- In 2010 (latest available data), there were 38,364 reported suicide deaths.
- Suicide is the fourth leading cause of death for adults between the ages of 18 and 65 years in the United States.
- Currently, suicide is the 10th leading cause of death in the United States.
- A person dies by suicide about every 14 minutes in the United States.
- Every day, approximately 105 Americans take their own life.
I have a blog on suicide. You can read it here: https://donoterr.wordpress.com/2012/11/30/gag-order-a-book-review/
- Our enemy is the Devil
1Pe 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
When we refuse God entry into our life then we have a carnal mind and that opens a pathway to the Devil.
Rom_8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Before peace can become a reality a person must receive Jesus as Lord and Saviour, to find out how you can join God’s family and experience peace beyond understanding click here
Philippians _4:7 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
Colossians 1:20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
To read about the blood of Calvary click here
We are almost done but first one more Bible verse
Rev_6:4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
There will be no peace until Jesus returns at the end of the Great War Armageddon. That’s because people refuse to be saved, and therefore evil continues to triumph. I hope you wont be one that refuses Christ Jesus because if you are not a child of God then you are part of the anti-peace movement.
Jesus came to earth from heaven to die for our sins, when people don’t care about that, well this probably sounds harsh, the truth is harsh, but you deserve everything you get.
JESUS PAID IT ALL AND WITHOUT THE PRINCE OF PEACE THERE WILL BE NO PEACE – you want PROOF – 5,000 YEARS OF FAILURE!